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 Post subject: Detailing/Polishing Technique Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:43 pm 
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Is this procedure correct:

1. Wash/Dry
2. Clay Bar
3. Polish
4. Wax

Also, can anbody tell me where to get my hands on the Zaino wax?

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i think 3&4 need to be interchanged, but my detailing knowledge is far from desired.


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 Post subject: Re: Detailing/Polishing Technique Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:54 pm 
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bugeye wrote:
Is this procedure correct:

1. Wash/Dry
2. Clay Bar
3. Polish
4. Wax

Also, can anbody tell me where to get my hands on the Zaino wax?

Cheers.


Yep thats the basic method.

Not much point putting on the wax, if your going to polish it off. :thumbs:

And as far as I've seen you can only buy zaino over the net.

I know waxit have it. http://www.waxit.com.au/

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Ohhhh that waxit site is evil.... cost me $120 last time i visted that site!

I went with the Poorboys Pro-polish and DP Max Wax


Also give Peter R a PM, or even ask Tigerking as well. :thumbs:


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I thought u polished the wax, or is that buffing? or are they the same?
yep, now ive gone and confused myself. :?


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Wash the car and dry it. Then clay bar it, then your left with a clean canvas to polish and then wax. Think of Wax as another clear coat you put onto the car. :)

Tigerkind or Cpitts are the men to talk to about all of this.....

And slight hi-jack, what black plastic 'blackener' (for the sideskirts and mudflaps) is everyone using.... i was thinking of some of this stuff,
http://www.waxit.com.au/proddetail.asp? ... 0014&cat=9


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Maguires Gold Class Trim Detailer here - not that I have much to do now ...

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 Post subject: Re: Detailing/Polishing Technique Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:51 pm 
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bugeye wrote:
Is this procedure correct:

1. Wash/Dry
2. Clay Bar
3. Polish
4. Wax

Also, can anbody tell me where to get my hands on the Zaino wax?

Cheers.

1. Morning Fresh
2. clay bar
3. Morning Fresh
4. Maguires Fine Cut
5. Maguires Fine Cut (depends how bad swirls are)
6. Z5 Polish
7. Z5 Polish
8. Z2 Pro
9. Z2 Pro
:oops: :whistle:

After using almost every maguires product for over 4 years, i can say that im now a zaino convert. Would never go back. This stuff feels like the day i waxed it even after 5 months. Although there are superior products out there but not as practical or affordable.

I get mine from here:
http://www.concoursecarcare.com.au/category20_1.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Detailing/Polishing Technique Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:13 pm 
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MVO wrote:

1. Morning Fresh
2. clay bar
3. Morning Fresh
4. Maguires Fine Cut
5. Maguires Fine Cut (depends how bad swirls are)
6. Z5 Polish
7. Z5 Polish
8. Z2 Pro
9. Z2 Pro
:oops: :whistle:


10. See psychiatrist about clean/smooth car fixation.


:) :P

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wasoutasight wrote:
Maguires Gold Class Trim Detailer here - not that I have much to do now ...

Ditto, I use this also. It's pretty good Age.

Thanks all for your help, it seems I'm on the right track.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:46 am 
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http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailin ... iling.html
this is a good site to start on ...

and that sequence is right.
claying is the best thing ever!! it just gets it sooo smooth :) I love it.

I personally use the mothers 3 step product (prewax, polish and was) and I find it gives a much better result and much easier to use than Maguires stuff. however I do use the Maguires clay as that's the only thing avaiable at my local store but it works well.

and for those who hasn't seen the world's most expensive car wash -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LSle_WgexQ

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewt ... 865&page=1
and another that has gone over the top with detailing an astra.

yes I got abit crazy with it myself when I bought my new car ..

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05-RSX wrote:
I thought u polished the wax, or is that buffing? or are they the same?
yep, now ive gone and confused myself. :?


Buffing and polishing = 2 different things.

Think of buffing as what you do to bring up a shine from the wax, effectivley removing the residue and creating a smooth surface.

Polish is a product that is put on to help enhance the gloss. The irony is that you'll buff off the polish for the best result. :)

Bugeye
Have a read of the docs on this link:
http://www.corptech.no-ip.org/doodads/htdocs/cars/detailing.asp

I've put them together over quite a few years and cars and they give predictable results that are quite good.

Probably the MOST important thing to note is that almost ALL damage done to the cleaning/polishing/waxing is by the tools you use to wash, polish and wax your car (oh, and your clothes as you brush against it). So whether you use products from Company A or B your car will still take as much abuse as you push against it.

Make sure your tools are of good quality and condition or you'll just be scratching the car every time you touch/wash it.

MVO
Good to see you're right into it :thumbs: Wokka Wokka just doesn't understand obviously :P

Age
There's a lot of bad sites like that one out on the net :lol:

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05-RSX wrote:
I thought u polished the wax, or is that buffing? or are they the same?
yep, now ive gone and confused myself. :?

No that would be polishing the wax OFF :?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:22 pm 
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Age, if you're looking for a good trim protectant then you really can't go past Forever Black. It's a dye based product, which will not only restore the black trim but will keep it all looking black much longer than any other protectant out there.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:27 pm 
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Thanks darth. :)
I've got one of those stop-bags-scratching-the-hell-outta-your-bumper things on the rear of my wagon and its sheet me because its gone grey with the weather/aging. looks cheap/nasty/uncared for. :(


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:30 pm 
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No worries, you can get it in Autobarn. There's FOrever Black for Trim and Forever Black for tyres....the tyre stuff is apparently the same as the trim stuff but a bit cheaper.


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cpitts wrote:
05-RSX wrote:
I thought u polished the wax, or is that buffing? or are they the same?
yep, now ive gone and confused myself. :?


Buffing and polishing = 2 different things.

Think of buffing as what you do to bring up a shine from the wax, effectivley removing the residue and creating a smooth surface.

Polish is a product that is put on to help enhance the gloss. The irony is that you'll buff off the polish for the best result. :)

Bugeye
Have a read of the docs on this link:
http://www.corptech.no-ip.org/doodads/htdocs/cars/detailing.asp

I've put them together over quite a few years and cars and they give predictable results that are quite good.

Probably the MOST important thing to note is that almost ALL damage done to the cleaning/polishing/waxing is by the tools you use to wash, polish and wax your car (oh, and your clothes as you brush against it). So whether you use products from Company A or B your car will still take as much abuse as you push against it.

Make sure your tools are of good quality and condition or you'll just be scratching the car every time you touch/wash it.

MVO
Good to see you're right into it :thumbs: Wokka Wokka just doesn't understand obviously :P

Age
There's a lot of bad sites like that one out on the net :lol:


:thumbs:

As always- very helpful mate!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:55 am 
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Hmmmm....
I thought you were meant to clay bar afer washing and rinsing with the car still wet....? :?


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koechiro wrote:
Hmmmm....
I thought you were meant to clay bar afer washing and rinsing with the car still wet....? :?


Ideally wash the car first so it's clean (well, cleanER) then use a mix of water and good quality car wash in a small spray bottle OR something like Meguiars Quick Detailer (designed to work with clay bars and similar) and spray the area to be barred (only do a small section at a time) and bar away!!

The idea is to ensure the area is well lubricated so the bar doesn't stick to the duco due to excess heat buildup (which can happen pretty quickly).

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:14 am 
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cpitts wrote:
Ideally wash the car first so it's clean (well, cleanER) then use a mix of water and good quality car wash in a small spray bottle OR something like Meguiars Quick Detailer (designed to work with clay bars and similar) and spray the area to be barred (only do a small section at a time) and bar away!!

The idea is to ensure the area is well lubricated so the bar doesn't stick to the duco due to excess heat buildup (which can happen pretty quickly).


Thanks :thumbs:


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